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Cazeneuve Lathes - France
Model HBX 360   Early Cazeneuve Lathe  Model L.O.

A comprehensive Operation and Maintenance Manual and Parts List
is available for the HB500, HB575 and HB725 Models and for the 360-HBX
as well as other literature
 

Modern Cazeneuve lathes are manufactured at two factories, one located at Pont-Eveque, (south east of Lyon) and the other in Albert, near Lille in northern France. According to which company literature you believe the firm has been producing lathes since either 1905 or 1912; however, because Cazeneuve machines have always been of the super-precision and larger types, the name is little known outside professional engineering circles - although it certainly deserves wider recognition, the firm's products having always been impressively detailed and made from top-quality materials assembled with great care. The Model "HB" lathes illustrated below were all products of the 1950s - if anyone has pictures and data for other Cazeneuve lathes, especially early machines, the author would be pleased to hear from you.

Cazeneuve HB 500 and HB575
Cazeneuve HB Series lathes were truly impressive machines - the 500/700 lathes for example, with centre heights of approximately 8 and 10 inches respectively, had beds that were 15.75 inches wide - and so far exceeded that old rule-of-thumb for a toolroom-class lathe which states that the width of the bed must be at least equal to the centre height. Made in three different centre heights their models numbers - HB 500, HB 575 and HB 725 - represented the maximum diameter that could be swung over the bed. They could also be ordered in a variety of specifications, to suit particular purposes: with and without full screwcutting, with a straight, gap or semi-gap bed, in a variety of bed lengths, with different spindle nose fittings and with various speed ranges - for example, the 500/700 model shown above could be fitted with either a 7 or 12 HP motor; with the former a choice of four ranges was offered, each having 18 speeds:  12.5 to 1000 rpm   16 to 1250 rpm   20 to 1600 rpm   25 to 2000 rpm With the 12 h.p. motor installed, the ranges became: 20 to 1600 rpm, 25 to 2000, 32 to 2500 and 40 to 3200
Lubrication was well thought out: the headstock spindle and its gearing system were pressure fed a supply of filtered oil while a built-in hand pump allowed the operator to force oil in and dirt out from under the cross and top slides and saddle.
Certain restrictions were imposed on the choice of specification: lathes with beds that exceeded 5 feet in length were restricted to a maximum speed of 1600 rpm - while those longer than 6 feet and 8 inches were, wisely, limited to 1600 rpm.
A No. 5 Morse-taper headstock spindle was common to both 500 and 575 models but whilst the former had a bore of  119/32" (40.5 mm) that on the larger lathe was increased to just over 50 mm.
Especially large and very clearly calibrated, the micrometer dials allowed readings down to 0.0001" (0.0025 mm). A graduated dial was also fitted to the carriage handwheel - which itself was fitted with a "counterweight" to help the operator move the mass of the heavy carriage more easily. Both power sliding and surfacing feeds were fitted, with stops to disengage the drive and, in addition (and a useful safety feature) an adjustment was provided to vary the effort required to disengage the feed.
Made of steel, in a deliberate effort to provide extra rigidity when it was locked and heavy cuts were being made, the cross slide was particularly strong with its feed screw running submerged in an oil bath. The 4-way toolpost was a Cazeneuve patent, capable of repeating its location to within a claimed 0.0001".
Screwcutting - where fitted - was by an enclosed gearbox able to generate 73 metric pitches and, by changing one gear on the quadrant to a 127 tooth wheel, 73 English threads.
Lathes with gap beds were able to swing a maximum diameter of 2.625" (HB 500) or 29.5"  (HB 575). The total width of the gap on both models was 9.25" and metal up to 6.6875 thick could be run inside the gap on a faceplate.
On certain Cazeneuve models (HB-18 amongst them) an unusual mechanism was included (operated by a lever on top of the headstock) that disengaged the spindle from the drive train yet left the feed and screwcutting system engaged. In short, with the spindle disengaged all the power feeds to the carriage and cross slide were still available and could be used to cut splines and keyways using the carriage feed - the only drawback being that no provision was included to index the spindle..

Cazeneuve HB 725 (28.5" swing)
A beautifully proportioned lathe, the massive Model 725 with a bed 20 inches wide, was available with between-centres' distances of 39.375",  59",  78.75",  118",  157.5" 1972 and 236" - the latter  weighing 13,700 lbs - or just over 6 tons.  The gap bed - if specified - allowed material up to 36" in diameter by nearly 8 inches thick to be swung
A choice of three different motors and three corresponding speed ranges - each with 18 speeds - was :
10 HP: 5 to 360 rpm   7 to 800 rpm   9 to 1000 rpm
15 HP   7 to 800 rpm   9 to 1000 rpm   11 to 1250 rpm
22 HP   11 to 1250 rpm   14 to 1600 rpm   18 to 2000 rpm
The headstock spindle was 5.374" in diameter, bored through 3.228" and carried a No. 6 Morse-taper in its nose.
73 metric and English threads were available - the conversion from one to the other being by the substitution of a 127 tooth changewheel on the quadrant arm.
The mechanical detailing was very similar to that employed on the smaller lathes, being designed to allow the operator maximum ease of operation whilst absorbing years of hard use.

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Cazeneuve Lathes - France
Model HBX 360   Early Cazeneuve Lathe  Model L.O.

A comprehensive Operation and Maintenance Manual and Parts List
is available for the HB500, HB575 and HB725 Models and for the 360-HBX
as well as other literature