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Just four lathes branded as if made by Richard Lloyd have come to light in recent years with one, discovered in Australia, being a simple little hand-controlled carrying cast-in lettering along the front face of the bed proclaiming R.Lloyd & Co Birmingham. Another, by way of contrast, a large and strongly-built flat-belt-driven conventional screwcutting lathe looking to date from the 1930s and fitted with a screwed-on badge. Another example - it came to light in 2023 - is a quite ordinary backgeared and screwcutting type with a centre height of around 6 inches and built circa 1900 to 1920. The final lathe did unlock one of the mysteries surround the company for, while cast into the bed is the name Richard Lloyd, the screwcutting chart proclaims Sebastian. Checking Sebastian catalogues of the 1920 reveals that the lathe was indeed imported from America - Lloyd having placed what must have been a reasonably large order to have his name cast into the bed.
Richard Lloyd was born in Birmingham in 1772, one of sixteen children born to the Quaker Sampson Lloyd, the founder of Lloyd's Bank. His first venture into trade, after an apprentice in one of the family companies, was to open, in 1803,  an ironmongers shop based at 135, Steel-House Lane, Birmingham. In later years the company, having expanded considerably, was to occupy the "Galton" Works in Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham - the trade name "Galtona" being used on machine-tool drive belts, small tools and has also been found on several otherwise "unknown" machine tools including the "Turner" capstan lathe - a machine with a headstock identical to that used on the R.Lloyd.
By 1869 the company was very well established as a supplier of all types of engineering accessories and equipment and, by 1884 was advertising as makers of machine tools, lathe changewheels and other engineering equipment and accessories. It appears that, like many smaller concerns, R.Lloyd were happy to build machines to a customer's or dealer's order and incorporate whatever name was needed on the castings. Hence, identical headstocks labelled "Galtona" and "Turner" have been found together with other machines where the word "Galtona" has been crudely chiselled off (though with sufficient left to decode the deception) and even dealers' catalogues where the printing blocks where the maker's name has been erased and the machine described using some generic term in parenthesis.
The conclusion - lathes branded as R.Lloyd are rare and, so far, the four shown below are the only ones known to retain the name of the maker - or, perhaps in the case of the two larger examples, the dealer..





Another Lloyd lathe is this quite ordinary backgeared and screwcutting type with a centre height of around 6 inches. It is likely to have been built circa 1900 to 1920 and possibly made by Sebastian in the USA

Surviving with the lathe--though in badly-neglected condition--is a set of useful accessories including a milling slide, fixed steady, drive dogs and a large faceplate.




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